actually this is a reply to some dudes who defined Mobb Deep in the 'Urban Dictionary' where they touched 2pac fans by regarding dem to Mobb Deep saying that a person is an idiot if he doesn't know n e thing about the group. However, this reply cud also apply 2 n e 1 who had the same thought or who for 1s had some same shit written. Lastly not forgetting those who always talk shit a lot on 2pac fans, Mobb Deep haters or 2pac himself.

Dem wrote they shit some 4 years ago but still deserve a reply in so i'm here 2 show these fools what they icons worth by laying some facts n wonders.

this is how dem go;

Best rap group and Hav and P are better than Tupac, they shot tupac, robbed tupac, and are still alive.

"your days are numbered in low digits

you look suspicious, suspect niggas is bitches

get chppoed up, Grade A meat, somethin delicious

and laced back up, 2 G's, one for stitches

then reconstruct your face his and learn how to speak again

my Mobb's like a bunch of wild Puerto Ricans

wit bangers the size of African spears

it's warfare in the arena, you turn arenas into house of horrors

its terrodome, when you see my click you need to run behind shit

you gotta gat you betta find it

and use that shit think fast and get reminded

of robberies in Manhattan you knew what happened

60 g's and one for gun clappin

Who Shot Ya? You'd probably scream louder than an opera

New York gotcha, now you wanna use my mob as a crutch

what makes you think you cant get bucked again" Prodigy of Mobb Deep about Tupac in Drop a Gem on Em

By The Luprechaun Nov 20, 2004

One of the dopest groups in rap music ever. The group's consisted of Havoc and Prodigy. "Shook Ones" is one of the greatest songs ever. They are hated by a legion of Pac fans who probably never heard more than two songs from them but hate anyways. I don't care if you think Tupac is better than Mobb Deep but just don't be an idiot who doesn't know anything about the group.

The Infamous is a classic by hasafienda Dec 25, 2004

My reply to these stupid creatures;

Oppositely I would be a total fool if, even if it is for a second, I take time to know more about this bunch of craps.

Who wants to know more about these two little kids who ain't got nuthin' but JEALOUSY for 2pac when all he did is rapping on social problems like white injustice, prejudice, poverty, police brutality, teenage pregnancy etc, but about Mobb Deep?

Who wants to waste his or her precious time listening to bitches like Havoc and Prodigy who already had a bad reputation in provoking the main figure of Hip Hop with no good reason?

What was the real motive Havoc and Prodigy had back in the days in doing all those stuff like messing with Pac?

Were they tried to get attention or were they only tried to put Pac to the test?

Some say their actions had a positive outcome in terms of street credit but whatever way, these muthafuckaz only made themselves LOSERS of LOSERS from a personal perspective and there ain't nuthin' like street credit gained. They only brought themselves a lifetime-curse to their career as rap artists throughout the rest of their life as group, in terms of losing fans, and this would be for decades and generations to come. These two punks were frustrated because they couldn't sell records and saw Pac, who achieved all their dreams, as an obstacle and bitterly envied him.

Hopeless fuckaz!

What a loser-like character? It's like someone crying over something another had. Pac shook their emotions in "Hit 'em Up" for not minding their own business and it is good for them (Hav and Pro) because it was what they were looking for and Pac showed them who they messing wit and showed them their real positions in the game as rap artists.

Even now they are still badly affected.

Pac is already the King and he's the winner because he died with honor and with peace knowing no one replied him. He is also a Prophet of the modern times by making a prophecy-like statement in 'Troublesome 96' where he said, "Niggaz talk alot of shit but that's when after I'm gone. Cuz they fear me in the physical form".

Mobb Deep stood up without realizing their fulfilment of Pac's statement by dropping their wack reply, 'Drop A Gem ON 'Em', to a person who already gone. To make it worse this muthafucka Prodigy, who his mother gave birth to him through her anus after keeping him 9 months in her rectum thus having sickle-cell, go solo and made countless tracks directly to Pac, but without saying his name. There ain't no honor in such actions.

This is total cowardice.

To be honest Mobb Deep were two broke assholes who were only trying to come up back in the dayz though I don't blame this younger generation who listens to them because it is music after all but the main thing here is beyond music hitting personalities.

These two muthafuckaz should appreciate their wack group is being known only through Pac's hatred cuz if it wasn't for it, their name would still be the least in Hip Hop despite what lying people praisely say about them.

There are lawyers, doctors, politicians and many more high sophisticated people with high professions who still don't know who the FUCK Mobb Deep is or even bothered to but are they idiots?

Not knowing or showing interest in these two muthafuckaz doesn't determine who you are but if this is the case, then like what I said, it is those who wanted to know them or know them better are IDIOTS.

Unlike Pac, these people with high professions know him better either through his music or through their sons and daughters or nephews and nieces who listen to his music or through other means and like what one dude said, Pac is getting WORLDWIDE RESPECT and yes he got it started from the States, Europe, Africa, Island Countries Caribbean, Bermuda, Asia, Middle-east, New Zealand, Australia, and the Island Countries of Oceania and this respect grew more intense after his death and is loved by this younger generation, plus he also influenced many rap artists like this Tongan-Australian rap artist Charles Lomu known by his stage name as 6 pound, so who the FUCK is Mobb Deep anyway?

Even this 'Brooklyn's Finest' which some called him the 'King Of New York' doesn't even catch up on 2pac in any way though some may say he had a better flow, but FUCK flow!

Real music is determined by its lyrics because it is through it that elements which are able to motivate people are found and it had impacts on people. For sure, Pac was well-aware of the flow- thing cuz he was also a rapper, and that was one reason why he did a lot for that fat ass 'fore he came up, but he just saw it as not that necessary so he focused strongly only on his lyrics because it is the LYRICS that motive people, tell stories straight from the gutter, raise concerns, caught attentions from higher authorities etc.

Again it is the LYRICS! NOT the FLOW! All these had nothing to do with it (flow) but even if we were to talk about it, I would still go for Pac so coming to an overall conclusion, 2pac is better and is the best.

"Life as a rap star is nothing without heart" - 2pac from 'Ambitionz as a Ridah' probably attacking Biggie, these muthafuckaz (Mobb Deep) and most of them countless rappers these days, in General, that only sounded tough on records but NOT off records.

Would it be logical if I was to say, "don't be an idiot by not knowing anything about these group" then I name certain groups where another person doesn't even bother to know or know cuz of his or her own likes or just cuz the group is just a total wack like Mobb Deep?

What a foolish presumption!

Yet WHAT IS WRONG if no one shows interest in Mobb Deep? These two muthafuckaz deserved not being known, loved and respected because they let their jealousy and envy took places in their hearts in the first place and instead of shutting their filthy ass mouths the fuck up and zipping their lips, they gave opinions concerning Pac's anger and never thought the world would react (hate) to them in such way and now for certain, I know for sure, half of their hearts deeply regretted their actions but it's too late.

Now these muthafuckaz want a piece of Pac's fame a sample his voice which was done by Prodigy together with some other dudes!

So like what has been said, it is people who graduated from colleges universities etc that have broader knowledge, than the one stating his childish opinion, are the ones that still for even a per cent don't know NUTHIN' about Mobb Deep, but should it be sensible and rightful suggesting them as idiots?

Even I myself don't think I'm an idiot by not wanting to know more about Mobb Deep because it is those who show Mobb Deep respect, wanting to know more about them, or know more about them are the idiots because Havoc and Prodigy are the IDIOTS of IDIOTS and showing respect to idiots makes you a worst idiot, IDIOTS!

Some even say that it is only because of Pac's hatred that fans tend to hate, but either way I would still hate Mobb Deep wit' all my heart no matter how much efforts they put in to their music or signing up wit' whomever I like in Hip Hop like what is happening now with G-Unit (I don't like them either) because I know that the moment Pac gave up his last breath, he had that hatred for these bastard rats and as a 2pac fan to death I believe I have a part to play in carry what he felt towards his haters.

I don't yet listened to most of Mobb Deep's songs, where I don't even wished or wanted to, though I had "Is Mine" from their fourth album 'Murda Muzik' featured this other muthafucka Nas where they sounded like 5 year old kids rapping and every time I hear it, I felt pain in the ass, and seemed as if the song was only a provoke to 2pac who was already gone three years earlier from the album by claiming 'Thug Life', and I really thank God I only listened to one because I don't know how much uncomfortableness would I felt if I hear Mobb deep after Mobb Deep.

The title of the song should be 'Thug Life Is Mine' which would be more sensible in a 'given a song title' perspective but Havoc and Prodigy just want to avoid much critics as much possible so they just kept it on the low by eliminating the word "Thug Life" which had its true founder in 2pac and just displayed 'Is Mine' with the thought that only fans and those who those listened may know though majority of their fans don't know it either.

Even if you assess most of Mobb Deep's lyrics, especially Prodigy's, you will notice that they are still talking about 2pac except that they didn't mention his name and it's not a surprise because they are still badly affected by most of Pac's songs but they deserved it because nobody told them to fuck wit' Pac at the first place and stuck their noses up in regarding Pac's controversial concern on Biggie.

Even most Rap Discussion Forums use to share it by saying that these cats used to take shots on Pac after he died.

Mobb Deep doesn't play a fair game, speaking hip hoply, so they deserved to be hated so if 2pac fans all over from the four corners of the globe hated these muthafcukaz because of Pac's hatred, it would be sensible because they are fulfilling Pac's aims and intentions in destroying these fuckin bastard rats and of the fact that they don't play by the rules but like what I said, either way I would still hate these muthafuckaz!

If someone made defence by saying it wasn't Pac, "then who are these punk people talk about or having beef with these dayz to give them reason in making Gangsta Tracks and I'm talking major beef?"

I bet NONE.

So now nor did they are only two sad-looking punks who lost the world's honour but are people who Pac already spit and stepped on their faces as they cry begging for their lives on the ground.

Now they are here again spitting lies to put food on the table for their wives and children but the more they say things regarding Pac indirectly or secretly, the more honour Pac gained and the more cowards they made themselves.

"I rather die like a man than live like a coward" -2pac

Pac would never wish to live like how Havoc and Prodigy are now living whether death involved. He got shot and died like a soldier and a man in the line of duty on the 13th of September, 1996 but what about Havoc and Prodigy?

They lived to this day but without honour and what they only received nowadays is hate after hate every second after seconds, minute after minutes, hour after hour, day after day, week after weeks, month after month, year after year, etc and this hate will constantly maintain until their asses are relocated to the cemetery. Those who show love for him are only his relatives, kids, ignorants or those who for once never look up his lyrics. FUCK them!

"SEE, IS THIS NIGGA NAMED NAS...AND HE KICKED IT WIT' THESE NIGGAZ NAMED MOBB DEEP...AND THEY KICK IT WIT' SOME NIGGAZ NAME BAD BOY...BUT I SAY FUCK 'EM ALL. SO I'M 'BOUT TO TAKE THIS NIGGA (NAS) BEAT AND WHOOP HIS ASS WITH HIS OWN MUTHAFUCKIN BEAT" followed by troublesome 96 -2PAC IN THE HOUSE OF BLUES ON JULY 4 1996.

Yeah, fuck 'em all! Check: We are living in a sitting room when Pac stood up and said to Havoc and Prodigy directly in their faces, "fuck you and your muthafuckin mama" with their mouths close and with them not even dare saying a word, they cried like babies though they sit in pairs and it was somehow after Pac stood there for some time, he got out and closes the door behind him. Some few seconds later, they wipe the tears off their eyes and while done wiping, they exchanged words together for some time, stood up aggressively and started shouting, but without saying his name, in all angles in an empty sight.

Now all the people who were there as witnesses started laughing and some even make jokes because they saw what really happened but unfortunately some were asleep that they didn't know what really happened though they were later informed.

This is a simple illustration and picture on what happened with 2pac and Mobb Deep. This is what 2pac exactly did to them and this is how Mobb Deep exactly reacted.

*The sitting room - The World which we are living in.

* What he said directly to them in the faces was "Hit 'Em Up" (plus some other tracks)

*Mouths close mouths close and not even dare saying a word - Never replied.

* Cried like babies - bad emotions felt by Havoc and Prodigy

* Standing there for some time - his final days

* Sit in pairs - Mobb Deep is a group consisted of two people.

* Pac got out and closes the door behind him - 2pac's death

* Wiping the Tears -the joy Mobb Deep felt when 2pac died

*Exchanged words together - the idea to record "Drop A Gem On 'Em".

* Started shouting in all angles -Released of "Drop A Gem On 'Em"

*without saying his name - Havoc and Prodigy never mentioned his name on this track (Who knows? Maybe they were scared)

* Empty sight - 2pac's absence.

* Those who were asleep - some who were not really in to Gangsta Rap and Hip Hop during 95-99 when Pac globalized his music and was more advance than East Coast Rappers including this soft Notorious B.I.G A.K.A Frank White, whom Pac said wanted to play that gangsta's shit and envied West Coast because they made more money in Hip Hop than East Coast thus making them East Coast mad and jealous thinking that Hip Hop had its birth in their coast, New York. It's true hip hop emerged in Bronx, New York, by this Jamaican born DJ Clive "Kool Herc" in the 70s but Gangsta Rap first had its style in West Coast in the 80s.

So those that were asleep woke but Pac already left.

As God is our judge and witness, Havoc and Prodigy never replied 2pac but only after he died.

Hit 'Em Up Released Date: June 1996

Drop A Gem On 'Em Released Date: October 1996

I couldn't believe it took this long for these two shitfaces to come up with a diss reply and where was these two muthatfuckaz during the three month period when Pac was still alive?

Some say their reply was done shortly before he died and was already circulating the underground but even if this is true which was NOT, they were still cowards by not having the courage to officially released it and I'm still convinced and whole-heartedly believed that it was done only after he left because there was and is no evidence provided to support and prove the idea that 'Drop A Gem On 'Em' was already circulating. This is absurd!

These are only making-up stories by some small group of ignorant Mobb's fans who tried on whatever they could to defend Havoc and Prodigy by painting courageous pictures on them but no matter how they try to go about things, history remains history and no one could change history so these two fuckaz is already remained as cowards and no one could change their status!

Mobb Deep's action was a definite act of cowardice! Fuck them is what I said.....

Mobb Deep also made a statement in their reply basing it on the rumour started off by this Bitch named Wendy Williams by saying that Pac was raped in jail though it is Wendy Williams-like character to make gossip on celebrities but at least Pac replied by insulting her.

Havoc and Prodigy then used this rumour as an attack to a 2pac because they were short on what to say or did not have anything at all to say. Pac never used rumours to diss his enemies. He rapped facts as that on Biggie on how he slept with his wife, how he (Biggie) used to sleep on the couch, how he used to beg women to have sex with him (Biggie) and lastly Albert Johnson's chronic disease and Faith never said much on what Pac said regarding the affair because she had a mouthful of 2pac's dick.

Probably Pac was telling the truth because during those days, Evans had suspicions that fat boy had something with to do with Lil Kim.

So Pac rapped FACTS while Havoc and Prodigy rapped LIES.

Most or majority of Mobb Deep's fans and those saying Prodigy is the illest are fucking kids who just came into Hip Hop yesterday who know nuthin about these punk asses or what happened back when and are ignorants who not even for once read Mobb Deep or Prodigy's lyrics to see how coward these people are.

Pac speak the truth and his mind like a man in all his lyrics started from '2pacalypse' to his stressful moments in Me Against The World, his controversial album 'All Eyez On Me' and his later released albums and songs and they touched the world with its meaningful words started from the compassionate ones to the most violent ones aimed either at the faces of these unfair authorities or his enemies. The most political ones were before his shooting in 94, done by his own black brothers, and his enemy ones were mostly done after that aiming at those black brothers who attacked him and those had him set up, although he still go political in his career.

Though he was attacked by Black brothers on the streets, he still fought for blacks and used whatever he could to draw attention on the gutter and black life in general.

Mobb Deep lyrics only talked about being tough claiming this and that, talking about how they (especially sickle-cell Prodigy) celebrated Pac's death, how Pac never feel the real pain but only because of him growing up in the projects and growing out of poverty, stress etc made him (Pac) talked pain when it was only emotion when he (Prodigy) was the one who really feel pain that came within the flesh.

He also claimed that Pac's pain isn't pure and sickle-cell pain is what is pure. What are stupid Prodigy? What he said in 'You Can Never Feel My Pain' is the stupidest respond I've ever seen.

Be ashamed muthafucka because your pain doesn't relate to everybody but only to those with sickle-cell! Plus this pain wasn't caused by the unfair society or people plotting to kill you or friends backstabbing you or the fact of that you encountered multiple shots.

Your pain is caused by your mother and father, having a good time rocking the bed when unfortunately they passed on a deadly disease to the outcome of their works, so you couldn't relate it to us. Go rap in some medical cetres if you thing like this! NOT the streets.

NO one asked your father to put his sickle-cell semen in your mother's sickle-cell ovum to bear an unhealthy muthafucka like you! You muthafuckaz never know what it is be shot five times and what it was walking in Pac's shoes.

That is real pain coming from the wicked society's deeds. Not what parents caused and in this case you parents.

Check this out, Prodigy! Pain is NOT what your unhealthy condition your parents fucked and gave you because no one could understand it plus this pain is not what the exposed society people always rapped about gave. It is some stupid nonsense crap disease your parents gave you searching for their own pleasure so you cannot compare your pain to the daily deeds the unkind society gives, and in this case Pac's, because nobody asked or begged your parents to have sex.

It was their own wish and we can't compare ourselves to people with multiple shots and bullet wounds if we got fucked up by some disease. The only people you have the rights to compare yourself with are people with other diseases like HIV/AIDS, polio, gonorrhoea, syphilis and chronic diseases that were inherited.

Yet, if you think like how you thought by saying Pac never felt your pain, then we could say that all the people lying in or admitted to medical centres around under medical cares are the ones who feel the real pain more than the people struggling and hustling on the streets.

Again Prodigy's thought or belief would is quite absurd, irrelevant and reliable because we couldn't make comparision on this two group of people to make suggestions on who feel the true pain.

They are categorized differently, so coming to an overall conclusion, with your case with Pac, Pac was the one who really feel the everyday struggle and pain the society or surrounding cause in terms of politicians, backstabbers, broken home, poverty etc.

Everybody are related to Pac one way or the other in this concept struggle and pain connected or caused by society.

For instance if someone isn't backstabbed, he maybe recovered from bullet wounds. If someone do not going through court trials, he may come from the gutter or selling dope on street coners. If someone didn't come from the gutter, but from middle classes or first classes, they maybe raised by single mothers.

So in a sense, Pac related to everyone and he was the one feeling the pain, hardship and struggle the society gives.

To Prodigy: Yours is just an unhealthy condition.


"No one knows my struggle.....they only see the trouble"- 2pac 'Thugz Mansion'

Note: Pac used 'knows' because he knew there were millions related to him but it was just that, broadly nobody knew.


"Cause I ain't feelin you at all, your pain isn't pure
You cryin cause you broke from the projects
That's not pain, that's emotions, you a bitch
Im talkin bout permanent, physical sufferin
You know nothin about that
You just complain cause you stressed
Nigga, my pain's in the flesh
And through the years that pain became my friend" - Prodigy 'You Can Never Feel My Pain'


Prodigy used 'never' as there if there isn't a person related to him in having sickle-cell when there were millions out there with sickle-cell.

So here it was obvious again that he was replying Pac because Pac so he is a coward.

These muthafcukaz instead of re-evaluating themselves and shut their muthafuckin mouths and stop with this kind of lyrics, they still make nonsense crap noises up on the net, media, etc!

Even some Prodigy fans even claimed Pac and Prodigy are related in a sense that they spread the same politic concerns in their music! HELL NO! This is a 100% bullshit and Havoc and Prodigy for a per cent never related to Pac in anyway and to make it worse, these muthafuckaz never for a second go political.

Pac already humiliated you in front of everyone around the world and gave you time to reply but where you during them times, LOSERS?

Were you hiding in your parent's house embarrassed or were you were out on Queensbridge streets crying and snitching!

Prodigy also thought that Pac was drunk when wrote 'hit 'em up' and I found Prodigy's thought on this quite stupid as if them and the Bad Boy affiliates were too dangerous to scare Pac, but even if they were are dangerous which was NOT, Pac wouldn't still give a fuck about them so fuck you Albert Johnson!

It was Havoc and Prodigy who got drunk and spit 'drop a gem on em' in the studio because they were the ones who thought about this 'drunk thing' and they were scared muthafcukaz.

The whole of what said in 'Drop a gem on em' is is also absurd and unreliable in arguments. Yet it shows what Pac said. They really stuck their noses in.

It doesn't even convince anyone although fools are down and believe what has been said.

2pac concerning Mobb Deep in an interview held in April, 1996.

Questinonaire : "What about Mobb Deep?"

2Pac: "My little homies is attacking them. That's why I'm not even addressing the Mobb Deep issue. They're not even on my level. I find it disrespectful that they would even think they can attack me or the West Coast... So I don't even address those busta ass fakes.. Please print that.... It is on and poppin'. If you don't see me rushin' them that means it's cause they bowed down. (Pac mentioned this 'rushin thing' because he had just done talking about his upcoming singles including hit 'em up where he frankly said was purposely for Bad Boy, its staff, and its affiliates; then it was that these two stubborn muthafuckaz never listened or bowed down because they wanted to be grown up assholes, so Pac finally fulfilled his words and said 'fuck mob deep' on the track plus this sickle-cell thing came on air and the world was laughin' while Mobb Deep's deepest emotions got toughed. Now I know that the interviewer knew these two fuckheads never bowdown and had they done it and minding their own business, Pac would never go at them. ) Pac continues; Those Mobb Deep fools they don't want it.. Chino XL, Mobb Deep , Bad Boy, Biggie , Lil Ceasar, Junior Mafia all of them is on our hitlist and I'm getting with them with my new click called The Outlaws. They're some Jersey dudes who are keeping that east coast flava poppin' . It's some west coast dudes, southern dudes.. It's the epitome of what I represent. I got Big Syke from Thug Life". - 2pac in an interview held in April, 1996.

So Pac never even concerned these two kids, and no wonders why he didn't waste no time writing a verse towards these muthafuckaz, plus he never wanted to waste his time addressing the Mobb Deep issue because they were only fuckin ignorant kids who just want recognition, nuthin' apart, and Pac found it disrespectful, them(Mobb Deep) thinking that they could attack him or the west coast and Pac even asked the media to print what he said concerning these fuckfaces because he wanted them (these fake ass Mobb Deep) to read and stay out, if I could say, before the release of 'Hit "Em Up' but these Hav and P wanted to be grown-up asses so Pac humiliate them in front of the world. Now they knew what time it is. Fuck them!

Though Mobb Deep dropped they reply after he died, Pac said this again in 1997 album 'Makaveli' explaining why he touched these punks' emotions:

" Mobb Deep wonder why nigga blowed them out ..Next time grown folks talk, nigga close your mouth" 2pac 'Against All Odds'

If only they stay out at the first place and closed their mouths.

Mobb Deep doesn't have a World-Wide Respect and they are only known as "Fuck Mobb Deep" with one of them having a sickle-cell anemia and that's all, and I guarantee they will stay that way for the rest of their life as group.

Muthafuckaz should just quit the game because it is sad to say that they can't go up any further and one day they too will deceased but will be quickly forgetten though some say rappers got more love when they died, but this won't happen to Havoc and Prodigy plus I don't believe this theory, bcuz I love 2pac when he was still alive, so this is only some personal shit and globally speaking, no one knows Mobb Deep.

I don't hate on Mobb Deep just because Pac hated. I hated on them for the historical truth and for their personalities and behaviours and how their fans who don't even reach 10 always praised them unknowingly by disregarding Tupac , the one who taught the world with his music.

I don't really hate on Mobb Deep at first but when I discover what was really going on back then, I just then hated and also see the meaningful reason why 2pac hated so now, being a 2pac fan I believe I have a reason to say I hate cuz Pac hated. Yet whatever way, I would still hate these muthafuckaz.

Plus my hate worsen when I learned that this unknown, unloved, and unpopular track for over a decade "Drop A Gem On 'Em" was released after Pac died which I classified an act of cowardice and in legends, warriors don't say or do things on dead people because who are you facing and facing no-one makes you a NO-ONE plus your bravery can't be proved?

NO ONE replying a NO ONE makes you a muthafuckin NO ONE or mathematically;

NO ONE + NO ONE = NO ONE

Mobb Deep is fake cuz they only show their one side in their music and I always noticed that never in one of their pictures Havoc and P are seen smiling. These two idiots, Havoc and Prodigy, always put a hard face on. What the fuck? Anyone can do that. Even a five year old kid and let me remind them that their bodies only contained flesh and blood plus they are NOT terminators so don't act like one.

But who knows about the true Mobb Deep? I mean not the one we saw on magazines or on the net daily with these hard-looking faces. I bet no one and maybe they didn't and don't really rap their lives and who knows if what the media and the people tell is NOT true? Most sources we read from are only telling lies to get money from this small group of Mobb Deep fans plus Havoc and Prodigy never live the life they rapped thus making me wonder if that was one reason why they were so jealous of 2pac because every line in his songs tells a story about his life in every aspect started from the sad ones, compassionate ones, angry ones etc.

There still are doubts concerning the real life these two fuckfaces live. Maybe they came out of places being told but were losers in those areas, in which other guys used to bash them up, so to leave that kind of life, they turned to music but instead of rapping their real lives on how they connected to their society as losers, they rapped lies and fantasies.

The violence being rapped about was long gone and in its cases, they only took part in 1 % one way or the other but the rest of 99% was only a seen thing plus they don't have no physical strength. They only look tough and strong in pictures but in real life they are weak, especially this Prodigy, and they themselves know these.

Being a man doesn't mean you have to put a hard-face on unless you are in a situation and these guys don't even stuck in a one but put a hard face on anyways and to make it worse they did them with rifles and weapons in some of their album covers (correct me if I'm wrong).

What idiots you made out of yourselves? Go to Iraq if you want war where only a skinny teen lady will come up and blow 'ur assess off till there's no trace of them!

There are pictures of 2pac which show him as being sad, happy, anxious, in a hyper state, calm, mad etc which means 2pac is real just another person next door. He smiled in pictures. He also have some of his pictures taken with families especially of that with his mother where they show how 2pac really love and care for his mom and these reminded me personally of homeboys and common people with family pictures especially with that of their mothers that show their happy moments. He cried when they lied about him in the media during the 94 shooting and I can't really imagine a guy so strong and confident standing throughout all the dramas being encountered. He was so strong that I myself can't even imagine me in such situations or even these these-dayz rappers who boasted and talk too much on records or whoever else. Even Havoc and Prodigy for a second to think of rapping again if came across such situation is out of what I think.

Some say that it is only Death Row that made 2pac reacted in such ways by giving him protection but this is not true and was only a presumption. Check out what he said about this matter;

Vibe Magazine: "Did you move to Death Row for some sort of protection?"

2pac: "Hell, no. There's nobody in the business strong enough to scare me. I'm with Death Row 'cause they not scared either".

"When I was in jail, Suge was the only one who used to see me. Nigga used to fly a private plane, all the way to New York, and spend time with me. He got his lawyer to look into all my cases. Suge supported me, whatever I needed. When I got out of jail, he had a private plane for me, a limo, five police officers for security. I said, "I need a house for my moms"; I got a house for my moms.

I promised him, "Suge, I'm gonna make Death Row the biggest label in the whole world. I'm gonna make it bigger than Snoop even made it." Not stepping on Snoop's toes; he did a lot of work. Him, Dogg Pound, Nate Dogg, Dre, all of them-they made Death Row what it is today. I'm gonna take it to the next level". - an interview with 2pac

Pac only needed support when he came out of jail and this is what exactly he found in Death Row although they provided him with protection as well but even though if there was no protection, he would still react in such ways because he already stood for what he believe.

Note that even before Death Row while still working solo, he done controversial tracks already where he used to said these f-words to those he think deserved it or those who he thinks unjusticely treated his community bad.

Fuck you to the San Francisco Police department
Fuck you to the Marin County Sheriff department
Fuck you to the F.B.I
Fuck you to the C.I.A
Fuck you to the B-u-s-h
Fuck you to the AmeriKKKa
Fuck you to all you redneck prejudice muthafuckas
And fuck yah
Fuck Y'all
Punk gay sensitive little dick bastards
2pacalypse mutha fuckin' now
Y'all can kiss my ass and suck my dick
And my uncle Tommy's balls
Fuck Y'all
Punks, punks, punks, punks, punks - 2pac in "I don give a Fuck" (2pacalypse, 1991)

To me personally, these were the people he should be scared of because they were more powerful than them suckers like Mobb Deep, Biggie, Bad Boy staffs, it's affiliates, Chino XL etc but still fear never found a way in to him so to make a diss song like 'Hit Em Up' to all these suckahz I've mentioned, doesn't even take a second for 2pac to contemplate whether it should be done or not because what is Bad Boy Records to the Institutions Pac insulted solo before even going to Death Row?

Also note that he already humiliated them who cowardly robbed and attacked him in 'Me Against The World' that was also done before Death Row. So coming to a conclusion, he didn't go to Death Row for protection? Dude just don't give a fuck and this is one reason why I find it stupid and unreliable Mobb Deep thinking that Pac must had been drunk when wrote 'hit 'em Up'!

Check out what he said in the House Of Blues on July 4, 1996 "Nigga (Biggie) tried to play that Gangsta shit but we M.O.B for muthafuckin real...everybody on the Row got strikes and shit.....everybody on the Row got cases...even the females......fat muthafucka Biggie came in the game and tried to cross a nigga"

He was trying to paint a picture showing that Biggie was soft, weak, and without heart but wanted to play that Gangsta's Shit and to make it worse he even crossed the line by setting up Pac, rapped his lifestyle, and dressed up like him when there were other issues he should addressed firstly like social problems before rapped like how he did, when came into success.

Note that Pac didn't rap about money, women, jewels etc when he first came in the game but socials problems.

2pac never faked himself in pictures. When he's happy he showed it whether be through a song, a clip, an interview, a picture or whatever means. When he cried he tells it. When he's not happy about something he made it known.

What about Havoc and Prodigy? Fuck them!

The thing about 2pac is he's not being fully understood, especially haters though he's well-known by them and also a per cent of fans and it is a prayer that as day goes by, him, his dreams and what he stood for would be understood and as true 2pac fans (bcuz there are also fake ones), it is a part and an obligation to preach the truth about him and his message whenever it is necessary especially to this younger generation who may be misled by what they hear or read. Some suckaz also say Pac had a big-mouth in terms of speaking but from the start, I personally never and don't see him that way. Not until I hear muthafuckaz said it and Pac was just another brother with a strong opinion thus making it seemed as if he had a big mouth!

What if somebody shot your ass five times and you learned later that you got set up by some of your real friends or homeboys whom you used to support and this discovery was in some fucked up place that took away your freedom, and then again you read the news and saw these same friends saying bullshit and twisted facts regarding what happened to you being shot five times? Again you hear one of these same friends releasing an album resembling yours and to make it worse his lyrics focuses on what you alone owned or used to do apart from them like jewels, cars, house, money, women, house party in the projects etc, when deep down in your heart, believing God to be your witness you know for 100% that your friend never had those things because you were the one who used to support them and really know who they are apart from other people. Then these same friends never for a second pay visit or send shout outs and letters that give moral support when you got locked up!

If this happens to someone I couldn't see as or called him a big mouth if he came out of jail and said "fuck you!" because we are the ones who created the person in him so in return we reap what we sow and it's fascinating to see that this same principle of 'The Hate U Gave Lil Infants Fucks Everybody (THUG LIFE)' also apply here.

So muthafuckaz should stop thinking 2pac is a big-mouth! He's just another brother with a strong opinion and his death doesn't even relate to what muthafuckaz though as his ways of acting. He died because lazy muthafuckaz,( who for never for once put this 'sweat and eat' mentality in their ignorant tiny brains and only rely on stealing, robbing, burglary, etc) created jealousy in them!

2pac's voice is one a kind in its total UNIQUENESS and no one can oppose me on this. If you do then you must have some fuckin' problems wit' 'ur hearings.

Some say the real Hip Hop era laid in the 90s and I would agree on that because these were the years (1995-1999) that 2Pac's and West Side Artist's Gangsta-rap music penetrates and ruled areas and communities in and around the globe where most youths do drugs, came from broken homes, raised in poor families etc came from who really felt what WEST SIDE GANGSTA RAP was like and quickly adjusted. Apart from the States where the beef generated, East Coast Rap wasn't globally recognized and was considered weak in terms of everything and this judgement is through a recalled observation which can also be proven through their GLOBAL sales. I'm not trying to take away East Coast Rap's credit but this is how it was and most youths was behind 2pac and West Coast Gangsta Rap and also those days were pride days for those situated on west coasts. This is only a review to show how fool, ignorant, and stupid The Luprechaun(one of tha person I'm replying) was by making joke on 2pac. Fuck you 4 eva, The Luprechaun!

2pac is alive in us and his heart beats every time we play his music and it is through us that he still walked this earth, so whatever hurtful words people say concerning him is to be carried and felt by us because his spirit lives in us and it is 2pac that felt it, not us, which proved that he is still alive.

Once in my life when Eminem hits the mainstream in 2000 I tend to forget about Pac a lil bit and overlooked the messages his songs bring and was like into Eminem a lot and sometimes I also wonder if there was someone apart from Em out there either in group or in person that might be better than Pac although I didn't abandon Pac's music, dishonour him, and do not believe in him. It was only some wonders from a kid which the game portrays a put wrong message and meaning to the real Hip Hop. There were also times when I felt a little bit as if 2pac's Music was old-fashioned because there were new groups in the game but I just got along until 2001 when his 'Until The End Of Time' album released where it sort of focusing me on him again and as time rolled I started to see and realized that all dem new rappers rarely or not at all spit heavy stuff and shit, but ladies shakin' their booties, bling-bling, how many hoes they slept wit, party out all night and sort and I was like, "oh this rappers are fake though they are new and my wonders and thoughts on Pac and his music stopped directly and instantly it and made me became a better and more stronger 2pac fan than ever. That time onwards I gave my highest honor to Pac and felt a bit guilty for seeing him and his music in away but I know he already forgave me cuz he LOVE HIS FANS like we love him. Plus I was only a 12 year old young male if I could say!

This is how powerful death is but we are already fortunate to have him sharing his thoughts and messages when he was still around which mostly are through his music, if I could say, and just it's sad that he didn't have time to know and see how the world felt for him through all the court cases and betrayal he encountered in his short blessed life!

So what mo' can i say when 2pac is the best of all times? People just don't understand him or either jealous in Havoc and Prodigy's case.

"To all the comrads no longer with us, see you when we get there

'Pac, Yak, we gon' keep on ridin', give these cowards the uppercut

'Til we get up there with y'all, YOU KNOW!

Thug Life we still livin it

Outlaw for life, in the name of the Don, let's gon"

(E.D.I talking in the outro of The Uppercut)

Note: There are still many things Mobb Deep does that is disrespectful but would contain a million pages if I stress them down.

To Prodigy or Albert Johnson: I'm 20 and livin' my life in this fuckin' third world nation down southern globe and although we don't directly deal with guns, a fuckin' recent ethnic crisis created by some stupid muthafuckaz involving gunz (stolen from the police armoury masterminded by some corrupted politicians and crooked cops) had just done fucking up the nation, but i guarantee if you ever step in my area it would be the last day your parents, wife, children and relatives gon' hear of you. We'll tear you to pieces here and send a closed casket back to your family, relatives and fans. I've seen your pic up on the net and I could picture what you are really like plus, you did not even arouse a per cent fear or admiration in me. What only came my mind every time I saw you was "Oh, this is the one of the guys Pac insulted them", and that's all, nuthin' further apart from that and this also applied to Havoc. I got elder cousins and homeboyz who were Pac fans started in late '95 when in their early teens and now are rugby players and they were the ones who introduced me to 2pac and Hip Hop and to be real and honest, both of you are not a per cent match to them and they have physical strength than the both of you and if one of them step up either on one of you, or two of them step up on both of you, they would beat you like no one else had done it to you in your whole lives or if no witnesses is around, they will murder you. In my player, I put wack rappers beside your group name and wack rap in its genre.

TO CONCLUDE;

FUCK THOSE WHO JUST CAME INTO HIP HOP YESTERDAY WITH THEIR LITTLE KNOWLEDGE AND CLAIMED TO KNOW THE AFFAIRS OF HIP HOP AND FOOLISHLY INSULT 2PAC WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND WHAT PAC HAS DONE FOR THE HIP HOP COMMUNITY. RATHER JUST SHUT THEY MOUTHS IF THEY AIN'T GOT SHIT TO SAY THAN MAKING FOOLS AND LIARS OUT OF THEM SELVES.

FUCK THOSE WHO SAID MOBB DEEP IS THE ILLEST, WHO NEVER FOR A SECOND TRY TO SEE WHAT THESE MUTHAFUCKAZ TALK ABOUT IN THEIR LYRICS AND FUCK THOSE WHO CLAIMED MOBB DEEP MADE GOOD BEATS WHEN IN REALITY THEY NEVER BUT ARE PUNK ASS MUTHAFUCKAZ FOREVER WITH ONE OF THEM HAVING A SICKLE-CELL ANEMIA WHERE BACK IN THE DAYZ THEY WERE ONLY TWO LITTLE MUTHAFUCKIN IGNORANT KIDS, WITH ONE OF THEM HAVING AN UNHEALTHFUL CONDITION, WHO WANT NUTHIN' BUT FROM RECOGNITION AND NUTHIN' MORE APART FROM IT!

FUCK QUEENSBRIDGE YOU ALWAYS BOAST OF IN YOUR RECORDS. I WOULD RATHER HEAR ABOUT AFGHANISTAN, INDIA, IRAQ, PLACES OF AFRICA, ETC WHERE PEOPLE DIED EVERYDAY OF GUNSHOTS, BOMBS PLANTED, SUICIDE BOMBERS, REBELS ETC SO WHAT IS QUEENSBRIDGE YOU ALWAYS REPRESENTED AND PROUDLY TALK ABOUT TO THOSE PLACES I'VE MENTIONED SO FUCK THE BOTH OF YOU AND QUEENSBRIDGE? THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO DESERVE TO SAY SHIT ON RECORDS INSTEAD WE GOT TWO RELAXING MUTHAFUCKAZ FROM QUEENSBRIDGEC IN THE STATES WHO LIVE IN PEACE WITH ONE OF THEM GOT FUCKED BY SICKLE-CELL, WIT TIGHT SECURITIES FROM AUTHORITIES, THE WHOLE TIME ELSE DID SAY SHIT. ONLY KIDS IN THEY EARLY TEENS AND MUTHAFUCKIN FOOLS WOULD BELIEVE THEM SO TO CONCLUDE, FUCK MOBB DEEP AND QUEENSBRIDGE.

SO WHAT MORE CAN I SAY?

FUCK MOBB DEEP, HAVOC AND PRODIGY, HAV AND P, KEJUAN MUCHITA AND ALBERT JOHNSON. FUCK BOTH OF YOU, YOUR FAMILIES, YOUR SEEDS, ALL THEIR UP COMING GENERATIONS, MUTHAFUCKAZ!

NOW YOUR PUNK ASSES WANT A PART OF 2PAC'S FAME BY SAMPLING HIS VOICE! YOU GOTTA BE FUCKIN KIDDING THE WORLD, BOY! MAN YOU'RE DISRESPECTING REAL PAC'S FANS DOING THESE, YOU MUTHAFUCKA(S)! FUCK YOU...YOU TWO MUTHAFUCKAZ BETTER NOT TAKE THIS POSTING AS A FACTOR IN HELPING YOUR UP COMING TRACKS BECAUSE NO ONE WUD KNOW WHAT YOU GON' TALK ABOUT OR EVEN BOTHERED TO, AND LASTLY NO ONE WOULD KNOW WHO THE FUCK IS ME SO FOR NOW, FUCK THE BOTH OF YOU! FUCK YOU 4 EVA

Pray God that you read this posting!

PRAISE BE TO 2PAC A.K.A MAKAVELI 4 EVAH!

Also xtra luv to KADAFI R.I.P

THUG LUV

REST IN PEACE

2PAC: DIED WITH HONOR

KEJUAN MUCHITA AND ALBERT JOHNSON: LIVE AS COWARDS

(Solomon Islands, Oceania) Male 20


Last Edited By: maui 04/27/09 20:18:30. Edited 2 times.