Lil Wayne & Birdman: Sometimes A Kiss Is Just A Kiss!
by Khalil Amani
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hoodgrownonline. com/online/?p=1284
I
remember, as a father, kissing my son on the lips from birth up until the age of about four and then, one day as I went in for the lip-lock, he stopped me
cold. "No daddy! Boys don't kiss on the mouth!" It happened just like that in one day! I don't know where he got the idea. Cultural
conditioning.
I obliged him and we never went there again, but I continued to kiss my older daughter on the lips until she was about thirteen-until she realized it was more
fun to kiss boys!
Many of you young hip-hop homophobes are trippin' because rappers Weezy F.
Baby a.k.a.
Lil Wayne and the Birdman a.k.a. Baby like to kiss each other on the mouth. So they're gay huh? That's what most of
the Internet gangsta-bloggers say.
"That's fuckin' homo! A nigga kissin' anotha nigga on the lips! Ugh!"
Lil Wayne and Baby are actually making a bold statement about manhood and what it means to have brotherly/fatherly-son love.
Hetero hip-hop heads are actually repulsed by their "father-son" show of affection! Well I'm not! Big-ups to them for not continuing the
male-posturing stance of "high-fives" and "pounds" when greeting and showing love to one another. In many cultures it is totally acceptable
for males to kiss one another on the lips. Some of our fathers still kiss us on the lips and we don't think any faggotry is involved. So why we gotta take
it there with these two rappers? Cultural Conditioning! We don't know the full extent of their relationship! What we do know is that Baby is a
"father-figure" to Lil Wayne. What we do know is that both of these rappers have children-by women-through the act of sexual intercourse.
What we also know (but many of us won't admit) is that we grown-ass men desire to have a father in our lives! Can't we just accept that Lil Wayne has
found his father and that their bond is so strong that they don't mind kissing one another on the lips-and phuck what the world thinks?
Last year-after all of the South
hatin', Lil Wayne hatin' and fag-bashing, a group of MTV aficionados made Lil Wayne their number one pick as the rapper with the most swagger-over
Fiddy, TI, Jay-Z, Kanye West, etc.
-a man who kissed another man on the mouth! And Wayne is still the hottest rapper out! (Go cop that Tha Carter III!) That homo-bashing shyt is played!
Our society is phucked up! Every man has kissed a male on the mouth! It may have been your dad, your uncle, your mama's boyfriend, your son, your male
cousin, your older brother or whomever-but a male has kissed you on the mouth! And if you think men kissing men on the mouth is gay, I dare you tell that to
some of these Italian Mafiosos! Those are some real gangsters! Remy Ma and a few other rappers have rapped, "Gangstas don't
dance!" as though they are real gangstas! Shut the phuck up with that bullshyt! Naw! The "real" gangsters (Italian/Russian Mafias, Asian Triads)
don't make music! These gangsters kill! Have they not seen The Godfather, parts I, II, III and Scarface? How about them M-I-A Yayo Cocaine Cowboys?
Gangsters do dance! Do they not remember in The Godfather how Marlon Brando danced with his wife and daughter at his daughter's wedding and later on with
his grandson? Do they not remember the scene where Tony Montana/Al Pacino dances with his boss's wife in Scarface? How does dancing make you less gangsta?
How does a sacred kiss of loyalty and love between two men make them less manly or homosexual? I'm just sayin'…
It would mean something entirely different if these rappers were inserting a tongue in each other's mouths! Then you could make a case that they were gay.
But as the argument stands, you could make a case that a man who kisses his mother on the lips is doing an incestuous thing. Or an adult who kisses a child on
the lips is a pedophile. Or a pet owner who kisses his dog on the mouth is into bestiality! Now isn't that nonsense? Of course it is! This is what we have
done with Lil Wayne and Baby-made a "mountain out of a molehill!" They're laughing at the shock-value of it all.
Unlike the Madonna-Britney Spears-Christina Aguilera French-kiss at the VMA's a few years back, Wayne and Baby don't insert tongue
into mouth. And what did every HETOERSEXUAL man in America think about the ménage-a-trois kiss? We loved that shyt! We love lesbian sex! We wanted more! We
wanted to see Madonna whip out a dildo and fuck the shyt out of those two young impressionable white chicks! Yes we did! Homosexual sex between two women and a
man is the all-American male fantasy, yet we are repulsed by two brothas exchanging a gentlemanly kiss of respect.
The gay/faggot label is an old one, dating back some 2,000 years. Even Jesus has been "stigmatized" in religious history as possibly homosexual! (Do
some fast-food research and Google "Secret Gospel of Mark," "Beloved Disciple," "Carpocratians," "Professor Morton
Smith," "Clement of Alexander Regarding Secret Mark," and "Disciple Whom Jesus Loved"). In this regard, Wayne, Baby (and I) are in the
good company of the Savior of the World! "Blessed are you when men cast your name out as evil!" Men, in particular, have long called the messengers
(whether they be religious, social reformers or rapping wordsmiths) gay in an effort to diminish their calling.
But real-recognize-real and that's why Lil Wayne and Baby haven't had their ghetto passes revoked! They aren't pariahs (outcasts) in the hip-hop
world!
Is it the norm for men to kiss men in our society? No! But that's how they roll!
Things aren't always as they appear! The problem
is that our minds have been conditioned/brainwashed to accept and reject certain ideas of manhood and heterosexuality and anything that is outside of our
perception and paradigm of masculinity is deemed homo. In reality, all heterosexual men are "homo"! "Homo" simply means "man" and
"same." Indeed, Baby and Lil Wayne are homos-"men" of the "same" mindset.
I'm a homo! Every Internet blogger who says, "No homo!" is a homo!-and an ignorant homo at that! You might not suck a dick, but everything else
about you is homo! Your mannerisms-HOMO! (same) Your dress-HOMO! (same) Prince and Michael Jackson are the most HETERO men we've ever seen! Why? Because
their mannerisms and dress are nothing like our so-called heterosexualism!
"Hetero" means "different" and "opposite." They definitely dress "different" and "opposite" of most men. You
ever seen Prince rockin' an oversized white T-shirt, an iced-out Jesus piece, some Red Monkey jeans, a fitted baseball cap and some Uptowns (Nikes)? Hell
No! You ever seen Michael Jackson dressed in a three-quarter length business suit (minus the epaulettes and medals of nothing) and a Godfather brim with gators
to match? It ain't gonna happen! The only tennis shoes we've ever seen Michael Jackson in were some very feminine-looking black buckles &
rhinestone L.A. Gears! (Circa.1990).
And he wasn't even playing basketball!
He was dancing on a darkened street, doing the Running Man and ghetto pirouettes! Those shoes were so unmanly. If a dude stepped on the court with them shyts
on, he'd be the last picked and talked about from here to eternity! But don't front! Some of us rocked them! Some of our mamas put them on their
children-who grew up to be gangsta rappers and Internet bloggers! (lol!) This is our heterocentric culture. Lil Wayne and Birdman ain't gay! They just have
some eccentric ideas about manhood.
Sometimes a kiss is just a kiss!
"…whosoever shall say to his brot
her, 'Raca' (Faggot) shall be in danger of the council.
"
-Jesus Christ on Homosexuality (Matthew 5:22)
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Posts: 74 06/16/08 15:33:53 |
Whats it prove that they kiss on the lips like that? Are they more spiritually developed? That they are true gangsters like the ones you cite in the movies? It
sounds like their music doesnt reflect any significant difference from the other 'macho' gangsters who would disdain a kiss on the lips even from a
woman.
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MKJax |
Don't kiss me you fool! | #2 | ||
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Posts: 18 06/17/08 08:50:59 |
I'm sure there are all sorts of rationale for Lil Wayne and Birdman swaping spit, but I don't buy it. To me, it's improper for a man to kiss his
son, dad, brother or best friend in the damn mouth. Now, we all know that Wayne and Bird aren't gay, but it wasn't a good look. That's taking
"homey love" too far.
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Cosmonaut Seven |
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Posts: 74 06/17/08 11:39:46 |
Exactly. I seen Masai tribesmen walk holding hands and I accept that the same way Asian women often walk holding hands, as a cultural norm and way of increasing communication. But two grown american men kissing is not necessary. If anything its a control mechanism imposed by the dominant one over the dominated one. How come we dont see neither of them kissing women? |
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From My View |
LIL Wayne and Birdman | #4 | ||
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Posts: 2 06/17/08 16:07:12 |
Davey, Of all the hundreds of articles I've seen written on your site. This one in my opinion was the dumbest and lamest. Yes,Wayne is "hot"
right now and yes, California is about to start same sex marriage, but this article told us nothing about Gay life, about Wayne or manhood or anything else. It
was nothing more than a rehash of gossip. And the premise that men kiss each other on the mouth to show "friendship"-Negro Please!
I have dozens of female friends and don't kiss them on the mouth to show "kinship", "friendship" or whatever. Whether the author approves or not, there are social norms and customs in every society and in our hoods two men kissing on the mouth is neither a norm nor a custom in straight male society. Davey, You can do better. Ernie |
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Ndiaye |
The Author was Molested | #5 | ||
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Posts: 2 06/19/08 11:01:20 |
This guy believes it is normal for men to kiss each other mouth to mouth......and not only that he says....
"Our society is phucked up! Every man has kissed a male on the mouth! It may have been your dad, your uncle, your mama's boyfriend, your son, your male cousin, your older brother or whomever-but a male has kissed you on the mouth!" Thats just a gotdayum lie.....and this is why I believe dude was molested. Somebody was kissing that dude on the mouth continuously(his uncle, male cousin, mama's boyfriend, dudes at school etc.etc.)....so much to the point to where he believes it is normal.....and notice how he is using exclamation points to try to get his gay point of view across. Dude is acting like "we"(the straight Black Community) are the "abnormal" ones....and every Black male should have some other dudes crusty ass lips touching his. Now, dont get me wrong....I have nothing against gay people. This dude just vexed me by trying to make it seem as if every straight male is, or has been engaging in homosexual behavior. I guess the thought never crossed his mind to why he is always kissing some dude on the mouth....and most other Black males have NEVER kissed another man on the mouth. The best thing for him to do is probably admit that he is gay...and that male to male kissing is not something that all men are doing. I'm just saying....
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Posts: 22 06/19/08 12:13:03 |
Well welcome to sodom, if you choose to take a dookie shot in the booty that's on you if you choose to kiss the same sex like it ain't nothing
that's on you but nobody has to accept anything that they don't want to. Who's scared of a gay person or the same sex lover, phobia is when you
scared of something I ain't scared of no one cause they gay I just don't agree with their life style because they try to make wrong right... Stop the
madness every one know that it's so many gay brotha's in the game they are just on the down low.
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Posts: 1 06/19/08 14:09:52 |
I think it's an excellent article, it's sad how people who are oppressed themselves can not realize that they are oppressive in their beliefs.
Oppressed people want to be appreciated for being human beings and not be judged by their skin color or behaviors just because it is different from the norm
yet here we see all these comments saying how "kissing a guy on the lips isn't normal!" Who cares if it's normal. Davey uses exclamation
points because it's crazy how people are so insistent that a behavior is gay. It's angering. I kissed my dad on the lips when I was younger but I was
socialized to find it weird after a while. People need to question where your values come from. Why do you think it's weird? I admit that it's not
the American norm, but since when was the American norm something to cherish? American norms are also racist? Why hold the same beliefs as those who oppress
you? Race and sexuality oppression have the same roots. Question them!
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Posts: 2 06/19/08 16:45:12 |
This isn't about oppression....so miss me with that bullshyt. This isn't about the "American norm" so miss me with that bullshyt too. Name
one country where its seen as "normal" for straight men to kiss each other mouth to mouth. So I guess if straight Black men dont choose to freely
suck a dick...that means that they are oppressed by the white mans system and norms. Do you see how foolish that sounds? As I said before, I have NOTHING
against you guys.....but there is NO way that you can make straight Black men view gay shyt as normal. So you shouldn't even try.
I've always heard that gay men have a way of knowing who is or isn't down with their lifestyle....the guys who they can rap to in a sexual manner.......and that must be true...........because I have never been in a situation where one of my homies said..."Yo, homeboy...come give me a kiss"......thats gay. Straight men of any race....dont ask men for kisses. |
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Posts: 22 06/20/08 03:44:43 |
That right that why a strait man is strait notice I left the g out of it because this strait has a different meaning, people are crazy and whatever feel right
to them that's what they are going to do but it doesn't mean that everyone will just over look what you are doing and how it's done...
Some people like to kill but that doesn't mean that is normal and some murderers have never been oppressed in their lifes ( I am using this as a metaphor) but hey if you like to kiss another man then kiss him, I personally don't understand it and I used too--well I ain't going to T.M.I. no one (I'm a female) but I studied and was around the lifestyle for a while it's not for me but if you like to get your colon bust it's on you but it's not oppression and it's not normal but you have a choice and the one that oppress the issue are the oppressors but it's not normal... you can miss me with that one too!!!!!! |
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Cosmonaut Seven |
Brother J says yyyyuck | #10 | ||
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Posts: 74 06/20/08 06:52:26 |
I think that what we see in the photo could be a control method, especially if Wayne is straight. Coercion into a blackmailable act. Coercion not by force but
by threat of exclusion from the riches so prominently displayed and so clearly valued by Wayne. Without such accessories much status is lost and we know that
some would almost rather die than be poor and statusless again after reaching such heights. In the mob, kissing on the lips or face sorta serves a similar
purpose, to allow one to sense the others energy/intent. This man-kissing is problematic because there are so many other accompanying emasculations of black
men in the media. I recall Barry Bonds in a dress and pearl necklace. There are so many subtle attacks on our image. Even the most prominent black man now,
Obama, is being accused of being homosexual. This helps our adversaries not us. Anyway, whats wrong wit a pound and a bearhug. So what if its "macho"
and not feminine. Ill tell you why its acceptable for men to like or not mind seeing two women kiss etc while being utterly disgusted by two men doing the
same: Its a womans nature to be gentle and sensual and she arouses that in man. Its a mans nature to be rough and insensitive. A woman is created with
motherhood in the plan and her nature is needed for that to be effective. She has to caress the child and so on. A man is created with acquisition and
protection in mind. For him to be effective he needs to be able to kill or brutalize to protect and to be insensitive to do the difficult work in the "dog
eat dog" world. We arent in the age of hand to hand combat in battle yet a man still needs to be able to defend his home and the people in it. Thats not a
womans role. These facts are largely due to the levels of estrogen and testosterone that women and men respectively have in their bloodstream. Men have a
slight amount of estrogen and women have a like amount of testosterone, so men have the capacity for tenderness which is necessary to cultivate a relationship
with a woman as well as to nurture children. Women have the ability to effect masculine characteristics (Im lacking a reason right now). So when 2 men are
lying with each other as if they were women they are acting out of their nature. Whereas women, like I said are naturally sensual so to see lesbians doesnt
cause a revolting dissonance as do two men. This is my personal view of it, and not necessarily the absolute fact as to why, but in any society homosexuality
is unacceptable and will always be because it is an affront to human intelligence and decency. Also it is completeley disgusting in its mechanics. Man Woman
and Child all day and night.
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Posts: 74 06/30/08 08:26:29 |
Heres a thought related to this: When Bush meets with Saudi royalty.....he has to hold the royals hand like a wife or child. Submission. Control.
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